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NEW CATEGORY ~~ JOE'S CORNER

JOE'S CORNER

Okay, here's the deal. Joe sends me neat stuff. Sometimes obscene stuff.

Mostly neat stuff. Instead of trying to categorize each bit of whatever, we'll just call it Joe's corner. Wayne, you are not alone in the lurking dept. This is probably as close to posting sumpin' as Joe will ever do!

I believe I have DOUBLED my readership. (from 2 to 4) Anybody wishing to submit stuff is welcome to at any time. I think you fantastic 4 already have the email. GOOD MORNING.

AS ALWAYS, EVERY THREAD IS AN "OPEN THREAD"!  TRACY

"They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.  I can't even talk the way these people talk:
Why you ain't,
Where you is,
What he drive,
Where he stay,
Where he work,
Who you be...

And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.
And then I heard the father talk.


Everybody knows it's important to speak English
except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor
with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.

In fact you will never get any kind of job making a
decent living. People marched and were hit in the
face with rocks to get an education, and now
we've got these knuckleheads walking around.

The lower economic people are not holding up
their end in this deal.

These people are not parenting.  They are buying
things for kids. $500 sneakers for what ? ?

And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.
I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.
Where were you when he was  2  ? ?
Where were you when he was 12 ? ?
Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol ? ?
And where is the father ? ?  Or who is his father ? People putting their clothes on backward:
Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something ? ?
Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up ?
Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?  
What part of Africa did this come from??

We are not Africans.  Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa  
With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail.    
Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.
We have got to take the neighborhood back.    

People used to be ashamed.  Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' -- or men or whatever you call them now.
We have millionaire football players who cannot read.  We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs.  We, as black folks, have to do a better job.  Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us. We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.  We cannot blame the white people any longer."

 Dr. William Henry "Bill" Cosby, Jr., Ed.D.  

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Julie said:
 
It's not just a 'black' thing. Whites and Hispanics and Asians are all doing it too.
What ever happened to the "American Dream"? You know the chicken in every pot, a car in the drive and creating a better life for your kids?
Now parents seem more interested in being the kids best friend and showing love through materialism. Gee kid, love you so much that I'll buy you those $500 sneakers that you'll wear 3 times and then you'll need another pair that are a different color because I bought you new jeans and the old sneakers just don't match as well.
We need to act like parents and set ground rules that WILL BE ENFORCED!!! When we say clean your room - it will be cleaned to our standards. When we say home by 9 you will be in the house and not strolling up the drive.
 
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Julie, AGREED!
That's the way we parent.
It ain't easy.
It is the right thing to do.
 
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gster said:
 
Native born Americans that mangle English really set me off. Double negatives, subject-verb clashes, etc., the list goes on. And then to act as if it's proper English, I just don't get it. I see it as waving a sign that says " I'm ignorant, and proud of it!"

It's worse than the "Adverb Generation"!
Bill Cosby is right, and not popular because of it in certain circles.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
IIRC, Dr. Cosby was roundly criticized for the remarks (and similar ones) he made. There is none so blind as he who will not see.

Julie, you are right. It's no longer a "black culture" thing anymore; it's being adopted across the board.

Another thing I've seen; if a student is a "black" male (in particular), heaven help him if he is a good student, works hard in school, and would rather spend time on his homework than (gasp!) his jump shot. This is an over-generalization, but having been involved at NEM, I've heard and seen the rejection of these type of young persons from others who should aspire to emulate him, rather than Korleone Young. My involvement with TIS also shows me how hard it is for the students whose parents send them to the private school to try to overcome this attitude; not with his/her fellow school students, but with those s/he spends the time away from school. A young woman whose mother was determined that she would have all reasonable chances to obtain a good education transferred into TIMS from Jardine. As it happened, she was a good basketball player, and when the two schools met on the court, the verbal abuse that was heaped on her by her opponents was, in a word, reprehensible. She elected to take the path of least resistance in the long run, and is now no longer at TIS, but back in the public schools. I understand that her grades have slipped, and she is concentrating upon basketball to the exclusion of almost everything else. I suspect her mother has given up; the mother tried to be the good parent, but unfortunately, the daughter has through her own actions negated the effort.

Tracy and Julie, I agree; being a PARENT rather than the FRIEND isn't easy, but it is the right thing to do. Again, my stories are legion on this, and are not limited to ethnic minorities in any way.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Rox, agreed, agreed. When ignorance becomes willful, it transforms into stupidity. I see many of these grammatical errors in correspondence I receive from my professional colleagues. It's hard enough to effectively communicate when all the rules are observed, much less when there are errors contained in the communication. I'm not perfect; far from it. However, I do proof correspondence and documents to catch the most glaring, I've had many a young secretary become quite frustrated with my returning a letter for the xth time to correct yet more errors, made while correcting the ones previously done. Grumble, grumble......
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Now, before anyone yells too loudly, Korleone Young was a classmate of the elder at Robinson Middle School. I got to know him, and while he was "street smart", it never occurred to him, I suspect, to apply some of his native intelligence to the academic subjects. Those of us here in Wichita are aware of just how well that all turned out.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Oops, my response above directed to Rox should have been directed to Gster. My most abject, humble apologies. Now, where the h*** is my coffee.
 
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gster said:
 
VT- It's OK, I've definately been called worse.

G
 
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gster said:
 
Make that "definitely".

More magic hands typing action.
 
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I spellz wrong aw da tyme.
And ah don tawk nun two guud needer.
Ah jus luvs wurdz like gazinta!
 
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gster said:
 
I think I heard you talk at the grocery store last week!
 
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Danny said:
 
I'm horrible when it comes to English because I use it in very technical fashions. My use ranges from limited and structured to technical and structured. I get criticized on it often enough, but I come back and am honest when I say that English isn't exactly my best subject. Though I think most of my errors would be fixed if I just went back and proof read what I write and type.

I think in reality what we have is a problem with societal beliefs. I think in some respect, we've gotten to the point where parents don't act like parents(as stated above) but as friends. The question I ask then, who really is in control? Certainly not the parent if the parent is the best friend of the child.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Danny, my thesis is that a parent, by being a parent, is indeed the child's best friend; it just doesn't seem like it to either at the time. :-)

When a parent abrogates parental authority by trying to be a "friend", the child is in control; actual, constructive, however one wants to look at it.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Vaughn, you keep us on our toes by going from slipping into "your native language" and making us work for our understanding and then switching to making the point in the fewest words and simplest terms. High five(!) on the "...parent, by being a parent, is indeed the child's best friend..."
 
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