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August 10, 2007

Memo From Dubai

U.S. Promotes Free Elections, Only to See Allies Lose

By HASSAN M. FATTAH

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates Aug. 9 — Lebanon’s political spin masters have been trying in recent days to explain the results of last Sunday’s pivotal by-election, which saw a relatively unknown candidate from the opposition narrowly beat a former president, Amin Gemayel.

There has been talk of the Christian vote and the Armenian vote, of history and betrayal, as each side sought to claim victory. There is one explanation, however, that has become common wisdom in the region: Mr. Gemayel’s doom seems to have been sealed by his support from the Bush administration and the implied agendas behind its backing.

"It’s the kiss of death," said Turki al-Rasheed, a Saudi reformer who watched last Sunday’s elections closely. "The minute you are counted on or backed by the Americans, kiss it goodbye, you will never win."

The paradox of American policy in the Middle East — promoting democracy on the assumption it will bring countries closer to the West — is that almost everywhere there are free elections, the American-backed side tends to lose.

Lebanon’s voters in the Metn district, in other words, appeared to have joined the
Palestinians, who voted for Hamas; the Iraqis, who voted for a government sympathetic to Iran; and the Egyptians, who have voted in growing numbers in recent elections for the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood. "No politician can afford to identify with the West because poll after poll shows people don’t believe in the U.S. agenda," said Mustafa Hamarneh, until recently the director of the Center for Strategic Studies at the University of Jordan. Mr. Hamarneh is running for a seat in Jordan’s Parliament in November, but he says he has made a point of keeping his campaign focused locally, and on bread-and-butter issues. "If somebody goes after you as pro-American he can hurt you," he said.

In part, regional analysts say, candidates are tainted by the baggage of American foreign policy — from its backing of Israel to the violence in Iraq. But more important, they say, American support is often applied to one faction instead of to institutions, causing further division rather than bringing stability.

"The Americans think that supporting democracy should create positive reactions," said Nicola Nassif, a columnist with the left-leaning Lebanese daily Al Akhbar. "No one can be against democracy, sovereignty, independence and freedom. But not if it upsets the internal power balance, not if it empowers one party against the other, especially in a country where supporting one group can lead to violence and even civil wars."

Arab liberals who have embraced America continue to see their influence fade in the region, as more conservative and Islamist forces continue to rise, Mr. Rasheed said. Voters invariably frown on strength coming from abroad, he said; the only legitimate sources of strength any Arab politician can turn to is based on either tribal power or religious ties.

"Last Sunday we saw that even if you are a former president running for a seat in Parliament, in a small area where everybody knows you, you can’t make it either with American support," Mr. Rasheed said.

For much of the past year, Lebanon has been caught in a major confrontation between the American-backed March 14th movement, which helped force Syria out of Lebanon in 2005 and won a parliamentary majority that year, and the Iranian- and Syrian-backed opposition movement led by
Hezbollah and Gen. Michel Aoun’s Free Patriotic Movement.

Sunday’s vote was widely seen as a bellwether for the country’s political leanings in that confrontation.

Lebanon’s Christians are generally more sympathetic to the United States than are other Arabs. But the tension between Prime Minister Fouad Siniora’s American-backed faction against an Iranian-backed one was palpable in last Sunday’s election.

And despite an expected sympathy vote — Mr. Gemayel was running to fill the seat vacated by the assassination of his son Pierre — and the former president’s name recognition, Lebanese Christians in the mountainous Metn region, along with a smattering of Shiites and others who live there, voted for the more unlikely team: one allied to Hezbollah, seemingly sympathetic to Iran and Syria, and most of all, in opposition to America.

"Our problem with March 14th is not that they are aligned with the U.S., but it is their policies," says Alain Aoun, a nephew of General Aoun, who says American support has magnified tensions while emboldening the ruling majority to resist compromises. "We call on the U.S. to learn from this experience; they should not take part in any internal conflict or take sides. They should support all Lebanese."

The problem is not necessarily the support itself, Mr. Nassif said, but that it invariably skews conflicts, worsening rather than easing sectarian and ethnic tensions.

"When the U.S. interferes in favor of one party, their interference leads to an explosion," he said. "The U.S. openly says it supports the Siniora government, but it should say we support the Lebanese government."

There was, however, one American intervention that did work in Lebanon, Mr. Nassif notes.

"In 1958 when the U.S. interfered militarily in Lebanon, it said it was to help Lebanon regain stability," he said, speaking of President
Dwight D. Eisenhower’s decision to deploy 14,000 men to shore up the government of President Camille Chamoun and open the way for his successor, Gen. Fuad Chehab. The intervention is credited with preventing the Syrian and Egyptian governments from destabilizing the country.

"Chehab was soon after elected, and no one protested their presence here; a few months later they withdrew," Mr. Nassif said of the American forces. "In 1982, they interfered militarily again and it ended in a disaster. They supported Israel and Gemayel against the Palestinians, who were supported by Lebanese parties."

Mr. Nassif added,

"Since then, every time the Americans interfere, it ends in a war or in their expulsion."

Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Just wondering if the results of this election will have the current administration doing its best to studiously ignore the same, and working behind the scenes to upset the vote of the people (as it is alleged regarding the Palestinian elections,e.g.),
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Vaughn, have you seen anything this administration can't ignore? They live in a different world than the rest of us.

---"No politician can afford to identify with the West because poll after poll shows people don’t believe in the U.S. agenda,"---

Americans can't identify with or believe in the U.S. agenda! At least not THIS American.


---"No one can be against democracy, sovereignty, independence and freedom. But not if it upsets the internal power balance, not if it empowers one party against the other, especially in a country where supporting one group can lead to violence and even civil wars."---

America is also a country where democracy empowers one party against the other. How long will it be before the violence of this divide becomes commonplace? I don't think long.

One time I didn't vote in a primary election because being limited by my party registration there were NO choices for me to make. That is the only time I missed voting since I was old enough. More and more days I feel defeated and that maybe I should quit caring, quit hoping, quit voting. Maybe I should give up. And then I think how that just might be playing into "their" hand so I buck up my determination to accept the right and responsibility. But I know a bunch of adults who have accepted defeat. They can't see how a vote can make enough difference.

How do we get those people to understand our votes are the only way we can make a difference?
 
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Rox said:
 
This administration and many before are the definition of insanity. Like the Energizer Bunny, they keep goig and going and doing the same things again and again, expecting different results.

When are we going to stop meddling in the politics of other countries? Let's face it, we start the wars. We arm one side, decide that wasn't such a hot idea, then arm the other. Way to f**k up the world!
 
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KING GEORGE pulled up the drawbridge ages ago.
Now him and Dead-eye Dick spend their time complaining about being under seige.
Filthy rich crooked evil bastard idiots.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
One of my long-held concerns, kept to myself for many years, is that we here in the U.S. will indeed see civil strife, pitting family member against family member, etc. The cause will be economics, not race.

Supporting one party against another in our democratic republic, has not resulted in violence against the party elected. This is, I think, the relative rarity of one party having control of both the Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government. This may likely change, due to the imbalance in economic status among our citizenry.

The only Civil War we, as a country, have endured is the one with which we are familiar. It was, cutting to the bottom line, an issue of economics. We can dress it up as saying it involved the great moral issue of slavery all we want, or the issue of States' Rights, but it was the clash of two economic systems clothed in the arguments of slavery and States' Rights.

Linda, on voter apathy, I've no suggestions. Rox, assuming you are posting about the arming of the Sunni to fight against al Qaeda after arming the majority Shia to fight the Sunni, well, desperate times call for desperate measures, right?
 
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Rox said:
 
We created those desperate those desperate times, or at least encouraged them.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Yep, Rox, that's true. I fully anticipate the arms provided the Sunni to fight al Qaeda to be turned against the U.S. forces once the threat to the warlords from al Qaeda has been eliminated, as then the occupying forces will be the next threat to their control of their tribal, etc. areas. You know, you just can't make this stuff up.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Uh oh, "U.S. assessing (control) of Pakistan's nukes if Musharaf falls"...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/10/pakistan.nuclear/...
 
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Danny said:
 
Vaughn,

Wish I could just send a private message here. But I've a question in regarding being called to testify against someone. But I don't even know the said someone, or anything as to why I'm being called. I assume that if I call the number on the subpoena that they'll at least give me some information about why I'm being called to testify?
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Danny, here are some general thoughts on your situation.

First, contact the attorney for the party who caused the subpoena to be issued and explain your ignorance concerning the said individual. This would not be the first time that there are two persons with similar or identical names causing the wrong one to be subpoenaed.

Second, if the number on the subpoena is the court's, they won't be able to tell you anything.

For purposes of this blog, you can p.m. me at avtolle@hotmail.com.
 
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Danny said:
 
Vaughn,

It won't be my first time testifying for something. So I'm not worried about it, just curious why and who. Since they couldn't be more vague, just telling me to appear. LOL
 
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gster said:
 
Is the moral to this story : Don't force feed democracy to someone who's not hungry?
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Especially, gster, when the "force feeding" is being done with a preemptive military strike.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
http://tinyurl.com/22v5ge

An immigration issue that is a bit different from the one we've been cussin' and discussin'.

I can see it now; "U.S. Troops Must Remain in Iraq to Safeguard the Lives of Cooperative Iraqis, Administration Says".
 
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gster said:
 
VT- I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if 2 or 3 Iraqi generations from now, that they'll be killing each other for what their ancestors did or didn't do during the present time.

They look like Homo Sapiens, but their schmatics are not the same as the rest of the world! We broke it (Iraq), and now find ourselves without any glue.


MISSION ________________ (???- Your choice)
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
That's a powerful link Vaughn! So out of the kindness of America's heart we are going to allow 1,000 of the roughly 9,000 Iraqis who have helped us to come to America over the next two years. They can't bring their families, but it may be the only way they will stay alive. What a choice. Thank you for bringing another piece of the puzzle to our attention. bushco has messed up so many lives.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Yes, Linda, 'tis so, I fear. Methinks reminiscent of the scene in Saigon when the last chopper was lifting off the roof of the embassy.....
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Gster, meant to include you in the 12:40 PM post as well. Operator error, to be sure....
 
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gster said:
 
VT- That link is both very said and very upsetting.

One of the things I hold Bush most responsible for is the fact he has single handedly has taken my Country's good name ,and by his actions, put it in the toilet! That may well never be rectified in my lifetime, and it's that important to do so.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Gster, that (putting the country's good name in the toilet) is among the things for which he and his minions are responsible. I think that a great deal of work was done after the Iran-Contra deal following so closely behind the Viet Nam debacle by Bush 41 in the latter part of his administration and Clinton to refurbish and rehabilitate the reputation of the U.S. internationally, which has gone down the crapper thanks to the influence of Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al., on Bush 43.

He stubbornly clings to what I consider an unlikely hope that in the future, historians will judge that he was correct, and that he will leave behind some great legacy as a result. I rather suspect his "legacy" may fall within the group exemplified by Franklin Pierce (Mexican-American War, anybody?) for failure in international relations; and Warren G. Harding and Ulysses S. Grant for governmental corruption, albeit of a different nature.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Maybe he can find his niche in history as being the absolute most stubborn president ever. Not smart, not effective, just stubborn. It's more positive than other words I think fit him.

I hope history treats him exactly the way he deserves. I think my thoughts on what he deserves might be different than his.
 
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