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longhorn said:
 
Hey, for once on ANY blog I'm the first poster. I usually like to coil up and lie in the weeds and wait for someone else to post first, and THEN I strike.

heheheheheh!
 
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ouch!!!
I didn't see ya in the weeds over there, you're a sneaky snake!
 
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longhorn said:
 
CAMO snake!!!!!!!
 
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longhorn said:
 
....and speaking of camo, it's almost DOVE season!!!!!! My favorite hunting time of the year. You can fish and hunt in the same day, then take an evening swim to wash away the dirt.

Ah... green acres is the place to be...
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
lh, dove season is coming, true. That's the one time of year when I do wish I lived out on "Green Acres", not that I hunt or fish; it's just that when dove season is upon us, it's a good time of year to be "out there" rather than "here".
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Speaking of the time of year, something I observed last night:

The Independent School (where my wife works) held its "Back to School Picnic" last night. While waiting for the wife to finish up what she had to do so we could take advantage of the free food (so long as 45 minutes in line in the late afternoon - early evening heat isn't a "price"), I was struck by the giddiness of the High School students. They were worse than the second graders, bouncing off the wall, etc., in anticipation of the return to classes. Man, those folks at the school must be doing something right!

Also, for you good folks who enjoy natural things. The picnic was held at the Soccer Field-Track facility. While standing in line, as my wife held court, I was amazed at the number of dragon flies in the air. In close proximity to us were at least six; I'm easily entertained, so I passed the time watching them do their aerial ballet. Quite impressive, and a lot more fun than watching the younger elementary school students running around to the point of heat exhaustion.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
For most of my life fall has been my most favorite season. But the seasons are getting so mixed up I can't tell for sure what is what any longer. I feel like you smart guys do when discussing what is going on with the economy. The signs I've always used don't seem to mean the same things any more.

My first hubby was a hunter and I've cooked up many a dove breast and those little tiny legs (still hooked together so you cook and eat the two legs and the "crotch." I never did the cleaning (other than removing the missed buckshot) so don't know if that is the way all doves are cleaned. He cleaned quail the same way.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Vaughn, Tonya was telling me recently that she has worked with some of the teachers(?) at Independent. Maybe your wife knows my daughter? Her name is Tonya Witherspoon. We mostly refer to the family as "The Spoons."
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Linda, her name rings a faint bell with me. I'll ask my wife. For Tonya's information, my wife is "Mrs. Tolle in the Middle School Office", now sometimes referred to by new faculty and parents as "the lady with the white hair in the office".

Speaking of the markets, after the Fed announced its surprise 1/2 % cut in the discount rate, the DJIA opened 300+ over yesterday's close, now only up ~86 at last check. Listening to the "experts", "they" took the discount rate cut as a signal that the Federal Funds Rate would be cut in September. Wonder if the Fed signaled back "Nope"?
 
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longhorn said:
 
VT, not that anyone here cares about hogs :) but I caught this on the market opening report today.

"HOGS -- Opening Calls -- 2007/08/17
Lean hogs are called -.20 to +.20 this morning. Futures took a beating in the flight to cash across many commodity markets yesterday. Bottom pickers and weekend players are looking for an entry point to buy."

The part I find interesting? "Futures took a beating in the flight to cash across many commodity markets yesterday." Flight to cash? I think "flight to cash and then to the stock market" might be appropriate. Like I said, money moves amonst catagories, and it is unusual to see it leaving ALL catagories at the same time.

Maybe that's what is happening in commodities. Profit taking with record high prices across the board, then holding the cash to see if the stock market settles up instead of down? Wheat is down slightly today as are all grains and cattle. And buyers waiting to jump into the hog market tells me THEY dont think prices have reached the bottom.

Pork. The other white meat. It's becoming my go-to meat given the price of beef and the chickens in the freezer. I better start fishing too...
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Yep, the quoted portion as modified by you, lh, makes a lot of sense. At some point yesterday afternoon, I took a look at the Treasury market, and didn't see anything unusual going on there, so I thought "holding cash to wait and see" and went on. The comments above seem to reinforce my thought.

Speaking of cash, if there's really a liquidity crunch, I wonder how much of that cash being held has been offered to the banks for "overnights"? That's a good way to pick up a few $$ while waiting to divine some longer term trend.
 
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longhorn said:
 
If the "cash" is deposited in a bank, isnt it already there for them to use? To loan out or invest? I doubt they have it in actual $100's in a shoe box. And I still dont see the overnight and overseas markets doing much better, so the "cash" isnt necessarily going out of the country. As VT implies, it is probably being "invested" somewhere until a trend becomes clearer.

This also tells me the "market" hasnt forseen this and already "discounted" it. The market seems to be lagging in intel, not providing it.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
I hope it doesn't appear that I'm picking on AG AG, but here is another bolstering of FBI Director Mueller's testimony which contradicted that of AG AG concerning the hospital visit with then AG Ashcroft:

http://tinyurl.com/2abdjv
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Affirmation, once again, for the college choices made by our two daughters and Linda's grandson. The 2008 U.S. News and World Report College Rankings are out, and (bragging for both of us if that's OK, Linda), their choices continue to be "top drawer". Immodesty compels the following:

Liberal Arts Colleges:

Carleton (MN) where our older attended: #5

Colby (ME) where the younger attends: #22

Whitman (WA) where Linda's grandson attends: #37

Yep, good choices made by all.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
For those who read my 12:10 PM post and are wondering why I look at this stuff, a bit of explanation is in order.

One of my avocations is assisting as a volunteer the Counselor at NEMHS, in the area of college choice, applying for financial aid. (Now that the district has approved the allocation for an additional counselor, my services might not be in as much demand.)

Anyway, it's about this time each year that the various college guides start appearing, and I take a quick look at them to see what's going on that may help students in their college choice decision process. In doing so today, I noticed the new rankings had been posted, so I thought I'd let everyone know just how "smart" our two girls and Linda's grandson had been, in the eyes of U.S. News. BTW, KU is #85 in the National University rankings.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Looks like your daughters made the superior choices! And all will receive an excellent well-rounded education. I'm still thinking about maybe going for Family Weekend at Whitman. Tonya seems to think neither she nor Steve (her hubby) can get away. They've started a brand new business and are digging deep into areas financial. Andrew is encouraging me to come so he can show me off to his friends. Silver tongued devil, isn't he!?
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Linda, do it. We were never able to attend Family Weekend at either place, given our jobs, other commitments, etc. Let your grandson have the opportunity. Plus, when you go for commencement, you'll have met some other students, and can add your applause when they, too, get the diploma. And, my wife tells me that part of Washington State is gorgeous.

Speaking of diplomas, I became a "star" in the eyes of some of the elder's friends at Carleton when I was able to translate, on the spot, the Latin in which the diploma was written, into English. It became humorous when I was translating individually for several (at their insistence; I guess they were not convinced the "boiler plate" was the same for all), and my family, their families, and various friends were standing there (im)patiently waiting for the whole thing to be over so all could get good seats at the Commencement Luncheon. I just knew in high school that Latin would come in handy. :-)

 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Most importantly, Linda, you are so correct; all will have received an excellent, well-rounded education. While I'm proud of my education from KU, I have formed the belief that those who attend the Whitmans, etc., of the world get a very fine education by default. An equally fine education is available at KU, etc., but the student has to work to find it. My thoughts, FWIW.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Another article of interest from "The Economist" on the current market situation:

http://tinyurl.com/2bwdgc
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
A little fun, albeit too early analysis of the upcoming elections (non-presidential). Warning: Don't count your chickens......

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/200...
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Tough call MSHA had to make in Utah, but the correct one, IMHO.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/17/utah.mine/index.h...
 
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Danny said:
 
The following is my personal experience and commenting on the rankings of universities as a whole. Please do not take this as "knocking" anybody else because I happen to think there is a difference in university experiences and that shouldn't be ignored. I also think there is a difference between the colleges within the university and that too shouldn't be ignored.

One of the things I noticed is that KSU ranked #124. I choose KSU for the College of Engineering, which as compared to KU one of the things I liked about KSU was the fact they referred to me by name and not just my SSN.

One of the best parts of KSU was the robotics research we have done, and the competitions we have won. So I feel quite well that what I've learned(based on what I've personally done) I can hold my own against anyone from anywhere. Now, I'd agree not every degree program at KSU is going to be as good as every other program and I feel a student should choose a school based on the area of interest. Which is why I wish some of the ratings could break down universities on a curriculum/college basis. I suspect that would be more difficult and time consuming, but may actually be more useful to the students.

I knew that I wanted my Computer Science degree to be more heavily weighted to my Criminal Justice degree(a track within Sociology at both KSU and KU) and so when thinking about schools to attend WSU, KSU, and KU, I ultimately chose KSU. One of the reasons was that Microsoft and other well known companies in the computer industry recruited on the KSU campus vs. the KU or WSU campus(which told me these companies felt the KSU computer science degree was worth more) and the average starting salaries of the graduates in C.S. of KSU vs KU and WSU.

The university experience as a whole, it is smaller and not as diversified(student population) as KU and other universities, but I don't feel I was short changed on my education. I also received a job offer immediately upon graduation which was nice. I suppose if I paid for the full report, I would get the question answered, but how did they rate and rank the universities?
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Ah, Danny, you've hit upon the criticism many make of the US News rankings. They list their criteria used, and the weights assigned to each. The criteria include: peer evaluation; the middle 50% ACT/SAT scores of the incoming freshmen; the projected graduation rate; the actual graduation rate; the number of Freshmen who return the next year;the student/faculty ratio; the $$ resources available for faculty; the giving rate of the alumni, among other things.

The rankings should be taken with a grain of NaCl, as you rightly point out there are many things which make a particular institution appropriate for a prospective student. These rankings are not, and should not be used as, the only things in making a college decision. When I look at them, I concentrate on the peer evaluation; the actual graduation rate vs. the projected rate; the student/faculty ratio; the test scores to a limited extent; and the cost. I also read the summaries provided, and when working with a particular student, consult other resources.

Now, in addition to all that, may I suggest that you did the right thing in evaluation of the strengths and weaknesses of the particular programs of importance to you. Finally, it is my overarching feeling that a student can get a very fine education at darn near any college/university s/he attends; it's all a matter of the student taking advantage of the opportunities available to him/her.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Danny, It's difficult to compare colleges such as WSU, KSU and KU with Carleton, Colby or Whitman. The first three listed are state universities with graduate programs; the last three offer only four-year undergraduate degrees.

When my grandson Andrew was looking at schools he didn't visit any school with a graduate program. He will go to graduate school I feel sure, but he wanted his undergraduate experience to be where he was taught by full professors (vs grad students), small classes, etc.

I totally agree that one school may be THE BEST in one college and average in another so the comparisons would be best if there were categories of colleges within the university. Where can a person receive the best education in (fill in the blank)?

Two students can obtain more or less at the exact same college depending on their level of commitment. One may have gone to school to party and the other to learn. ;-)

Maybe Vaughn will let us know more about the criteria used in this ranking.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
I usually read Dan Froomkin's White House Watch daily. Some days it's more interesting than others. Today I found it worth sharing. It starts out this way:

White House Wiki Watch

By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Friday, August 17, 2007; 12:56 PM

WikiScanner, the most spectacular new invention on the Internet, allows you to see who has made changes to Wikipedia, the popular Web encyclopedia that anyone can edit -- and that includes White House staffers.

Wired News has been keeping a running tally on some of the more amusing and outrageous discoveries. (Someone at Exxon cleaning up the entry on the Valdez oil spill; someone at Halliburton editing the entry on war crimes, etc.) There have been so many edits by congressional staffers that the topic gets its own page on Wikipedia.

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If this is interesting, here's the web address for the rest:

http://tinyurl.com/9gx78
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Linda, you make an excellent point concerning the perceived strong programs at various schools. This is why, in the print edition of the rankings (and as far as I know, the on-line "premium edition" there are subrankings, if you will, of things like schools of business, schools of engineering, schools of education and the like. BTW, this is why the Liberal Arts Colleges are not directly compared to the National Universities. Why, e.g., engineering programs at institutions offering doctoral degrees are compared with each other, and not compared with institutions only offering a Bachelor's/Master's degree. From a prior years ranking, CalTech is, IIRC, the number one program (overall) in the first category, while Rose-Hulman is number one in the second. Further, for engineering schools, et al., the rankings are further refined to specific programs, that is, again picking on engineering programs, EE vs. ME vs. CE vs. Computer Engineering, etc.

Anyway, I hope this all kind of gives you, Danny and others, a view into the magical, mystical ratings, which schools trumpet in their admissions materials if high; and might not even mention if not. I am amused at Colby's official stance on this; the current procedure is to not mention the rankings, whether US News, Kaplan Guide, Princeton Review, etc., in its admissions materials. The reason is the feeling that way too much importance is placed on these by some folks, combined with the way they can vary. To paraphrase the president of the college, if one year it's ranked 22, another 17, the next 28, has anything really changed about the quality of the institution?

Finally, a criticism of KU; as alumni donation rate is a factor (albeit a small one, only 5% of the final "score), the Alumni Association in concert with the Endowment Association sent several mailings this year encouraging more alums to contribute, baldly stating that in addition to "we need the money", the goal was to improve KU's US News ranking. Bah, humbug.
 
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Danny said:
 
Vaughn,

I appreciate your taking the time and explaining the some of rankings. I didn't look at rankings per se. I visited schools that were ranked high(out of state) and the schools in state when, through scholarships, grants and loans I couldn't afford the out of state schools.

I was paying for my education myself, no help from my parents because I wanted it to mean something to me. I wanted nothing held over my head. So, my heaviest evaluation came from college visits. I visited my top three choices each twice more, when classes were in session and one time over the summer. What I liked about KSU was the classes were smaller than that at KU, and KSU cost much less for me as in-state vs UT:Austin. Thus I transfered from WSU to KSU in one years time.

One of the things I liked, is that KSU had the research facilities for my degree, and undergraduates could use them. Not a common thing at larger universities to my understanding. Most of the time that is reserved for graduate students. So I felt, I had more access to "real world" experience as a result and a good grasp of the theory to go along with it.

So I do think that rankings are a good place to start when attempting to narrow down the college choices, but I still think it takes visiting the college(a mistake I corrected during my time at WSU) sometimes more than once to understand if the college is the right fit for the student.

Linda,

I agree, I think much of the college experience is based on what the student is going to college for. If to go there to be successful, then I agree I think any college and university can work for the student if the college is at least decent in the chosen field. If going to college for the social life, well I think any college can almost work period(except if the parents are helping the student through school financially). ;)
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Danny, you have also hit upon something a lot of folks don't understand; VISIT.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Vaughn! I sure hope you are reading here, and I hope maybe you're NOT reading that "lawyer" thread OTHER THERE. They are brutal! So, we love you guy; don't pay any attention to those posts.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Linda, I took a look at it about two hours ago, saw where it was going, and haven't been back. One does not get into this profession and stay sane if one's skin is not thick.

Plus, I daresay that if the most virulent posters were to become involved with the law, they'd be the FIRST seeking out representation from those they love to vilify.

What saddened me about OVER THERE yesterday were some of the posts concerning Judge Powell's correct and right decision to recuse himself. I saw GMC's first post to that thread, said "yep" in agreement, and thought between the two of us, we'd likely "killed it". Then, I went back; ksgrm was up to her old tricks with a partial quotation of an article about Hoeflich's comments (even attributing the same to the wrong newspaper), and once another poster and I both completed his thought, she disappeared. I've not been back since trying to explain what is going on with the case, so I don't know if she's been back.

BTW, on Judge Yost; as a practicing attorney in Wichita, I've a need to be circumspect in comments. If you had any doubts as to whom my comments concerning election of judges might refer, let us say it was in reference to the two politicians turned judges presently sitting in the Eighteenth Judicial District.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Well, well, well; ksgrm never did understand. GMC returned to the fray with a well reasoned, articulate explanation (which I missed yesterday) of why the appearance issue was of paramount importance. He was ignored by those who didn't want to hear it.

Interesting thing about all that was the logical extension of ksgrm's arguments. I'm sure she's whined about "activist judges" in the past, but what she argues for is an "activist judge", but one on her side, of course, which, by her definition, would remove the jurist from that category.

Well, about time to retire to home; the humidity is getting to me today, and I really don't need a repeat of last Saturday.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
A final (well, for today at least) observation on the college "rankings" issue. Just finished reading the latest post to the admissions blog contained on the Colby website (yes, did old Dad's heart good to see the younger's name in print, along with her fellow summer workers, although the blogging admissions officer misspelled Wichita). What was impressive was that they have moved the twice-daily group sessions from the very pleasant environs of the Admissions building (Lunder House) to a large classroom in a new building adjacent, necessary to accommodate the crowd. From other things the school has publicized, it is apparent that the increase in interest in Colby is the fact that this time last year, the Kaplan Guide (published by Newsweek) named Colby as one of the "25 New Ivies". Thus, rightly or wrongly, prospective parents and students are influenced by these rankings, nominations, etc.

The Director of Admissions,a gentleman by the name of Parker Beverage, in an article in the alumni magazine attributed the record number of applications received for the class of 2012 (this Fall's incoming Freshman class) in large part to the Kaplan Guide publicity. Given how the US News rankings works, the decrease in percentage of applicants accepted for this year will show an increase in selectivity, and will work to boost the US News rankings in the 2009 edition. The cycle will continue, then, for at least another year or so. Meanwhile, nothing substantive has changed about the school, and, as Linda said yesterday, those who choose to matriculate there will receive an excellent, well-rounded education, which will have little to nothing to do with the rankings. Such is life.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Colby A&M?

Link is to a mp3 file from the Inside Colby website. The middle portion is about how some students are spending their summers working on farms, and the new formed Organic Gardening and Farming club on campus. It seems that there is a feeling that it would be nice if the dining halls would be able to use herbs, tomatoes, etc., grown by the students in the meals. longhorn, feel like sponsoring an internship? :-)

http://tinyurl.com/ytzr38

(Catching up on the podcasts which I didn't know were ongoing through the Summer; thought y'all might be amused hearing about students who are attending an elite, private, high-dollar college learning to farm)
 
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