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West Nile suspected as city woman stricken

Daniel Walker
Coffeyville Journal

COFFEYVILLE, Kan.A Coffeyville woman is in critical condition suffering from what is believed to be the West Nile Virus.
According to family members, 44-year-old Mary Westmoreland began suffering spasms three weeks ago and was rushed to Coffeyville Regional Medical Center where she lapsed into a two-week-long coma. She was transferred to Freeman Hospital, in Joplin, Mo., where test results came back positive for West Nile on Monday.
A spokeswoman for Freeman Hospital confirmed that Westmoreland is in the hospital's ICU in critical condition. Westmoreland's sister, Michelle Bishop, said she remains on a ventilator, is paralyzed from the neck down, but has come out of her coma. "It really doesn't look very good," Bishop said. "It's worse than cancer, at least they can treat you for cancer. There's no medicine for West Nile."
Westmoreland lives in an apartment on Coffeyville's east side, a block from where flooding a month ago left large amounts of standing water in abandoned lots and homes. Center for Disease Control sponsored mosquito traps placed near there on July 25 at Fifth and Pine St. resulted in the capture of 18 mosquitoes that tested positive as West Nile virus carriers. Those mosquitoes– culex pipiens– breed in standing water, like water polluted with organic or waste material and are not good flyers- meaning that they stay close to where they originated. Three other mosquito monitoring stations in Coffeyville revealed no West Nile present.
Symptoms usually develop within 3 to 15 days but Bishop said that her sister's illness appeared to begin hours after a mosquito bite. "She was suffering spasms and her boyfriend took her to the hospital that night. That's where I showed up. I thought she was having a stroke, the way her hands were clenching up. They couldn't find out what was wrong, so they sent her to Joplin. It took them three weeks to test for West Nile. I don't know why they tested for West Nile last, but everyone needs to know that it's here and people are getting it."
Joe Blubaugh, spokesman with the Kansas Department of Health, said he could not confirm or deny the case was West Nile but stated that his department was aware of suspected cases in southeast Kansas. Citing privacy issues, he said he could not state which counties the cases were located. "I can't confirm if this particular person has the virus. There are suspect cases, but nothing confirmed," Blubaugh said. "There are times when it's diagnosed locally, or if it was just diagnosed, we wouldn't have that information. But it wouldn't be surprising."
Blubaugh said that West Nile prevention needs to be dealt with by everyone. "The best way to prevent it is on a personal level, it doesn't take much water for a large number of mosquitoes to reproduce. It's hard for the community as a whole to deal with things like a spare tire in a tree," he explained. "People need to take care of their own property- and help their neighbors, the elderly or infirmed that can't. If there's standing water, pour larvacide in it. Wear long sleeves, especially early in the morning and at dusk."
Symptoms may include skin rash, headache, fever, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, backache, muscle aches, lack of appetite and swollen glands. Anyone with severe symptoms should contact a doctor.

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Rox said:
 
Just heard from my best friend last night that her son was tested and has West Nile. I have no clue what that means or what course of action will be taken. Thanks to his very soon-to-be-ex-wife, he has no insurance, even though he was to remain on her policy for 4 months.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Yep, Tracy, that's why I showed up at a social function this past weekend in a long sleeved shirt and long trousers, while darned near everyone else was there in more appropriate summer attire. I seem to be a mosquito magnet; I firmly believe that mosquitoes will pass up a horse (allegedly their favorite source of blood) if I'm within two miles to concentrate on me. Well, not to worry; we were all inside, and my precautions were for naught.
 
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Rox said:
 
One quick tip: Pour Clorox into standing water. I assume it's considered a type of larvacide?
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
OK, this is off topic, but since I'm here; the DJs on my favorite college radio station just dedicated a "tune" to Fox News. Its name? "Don't Dominate the Rap, Jack, if You Have Nothing New to Say".
 
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longhorn said:
 
Vt, are you a mosquito magnet because you are so sweet? heheheheeh....
 
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Rox said:
 
Good song for Faux. ;)

VT, do you eat a lot of bananas? Mosquitoes LOVE banana eaters and aren't fond of citrus eaters. Or so I've heard.

I just stay inside in my cave and only come out when necessary.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
We live on the west side of Wichita and Wayne works on the east side. He called this morning to tell me he was sitting in the car in the parking lot hoping the rain would let up long enough to get in the building. Had to tell me about the ditches running full, etc. West side got increased humidity and narry a drop of rain. I'm grumpy!
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Nah, longhorn, it's my thought that I'm a mosquito magnet because when I begin to perspire, the aromatic effluent thereof is reminiscent of an old horse. :-)

Rox, don't eat a lot of bananas; do eat a relatively greater amount of citrus.

I've always wondered if this has anything to do with it; for whatever reason, my physiological makeup is such that my perspiration is quite salty (just ask any canine in my vicinity, boy do they like to come see me for a "lick"). Back in the day, I didn't need salt tablets to avoid cramps, etc. when playing basketball. Don't know if mosquitoes are somehow attracted to the salt, but they do enjoy my blood.

When I was younger, I had mono three times; each time, with the required blood tests, on seeing the results of the first one, each doc remarked upon the high amount of hemoglobin contained in the samples extracted by the vampires in the lab; "fat blood" for lack of a better term. Maybe that's it re: mosquitoes.
 
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Good mornin' grumpy!
I'm happy.
VeeTee, you can be Doc.

Rox and longhorn will hafta fight over which dwarf they wanna be.

Rain?
I'm jealous.
 
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BTW, I believe that salt and/or dish soap will also do the trick in the standing water.
If there's enough water, those big fat goldfish are even better!
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Koi, Happy?
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
I don't wanna be grumpy, why do I have to be grumpy, it's not my turn to be grumpy, why do I always have to be the grumpy one, everyone else gets to be someone fun and I'm stuck with grumpy. I just might not play if I have to be grumpy. Just cause I said I was grumpy didn't mean you had to go make me grumpier. How come you get to be BOTH happy and jealous. It's not fair.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Yep, Grumpy, there was quite the short-lived "shower" on the east side earlier this morning.
 
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Rox said:
 
I'll take Sleepy or Dopey. Either suits. Bashful would work, although in "print", I ain't that!
 
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Rox said:
 
I noticed it was wet when I left to take the oldest granddaughter to school. I didn't much more than that, as I was sleeping soundly until just after 8:30. Amazing, but I think I managed a full 8 hours of sleep for the first time in weeks.
 
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Rox said:
 
Linda, if it makes you feel any better, I've been extremely grumpy lately.

I noticed that one particular female poster Over There took some shots at you and VT. Such a sweet old lady...NOT. Does she use the teaspoon of vinegar treatment every morning? I read there, but seldom post, unless it's a potshot. >evil grin<
 
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Danny said:
 
Mosquitos don't like me much. I rarely get bitten. Thankfully. However, I do run at night, and sometimes I'll use repellent other times I don't. So far all summer, I've not been bitten once. :D

Now as stated on one of the other topics(whats good for the goose), I'm back to work and likely off the rest of day except maybe at lunch.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Golly darn, Rox, I must have missed that. Gee, I wonder which deviation from the path of the "truth" I took that drove her to such unseemly action? >snicker<
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Yes, Rox. But she got the LAST word and maybe thinks she won whatever there was to win. I thought for a second about responding to her response before the futility of the whole thing dawned on me. I still have that brick wall to knock my head against if I want to feel that frustrated! Weekends when I allow myself to be lazy and none of you are around I tend to go where no (wo)man should go. I must stay busier!
 
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Rox said:
 
Perhaps she should learn that it's better to keep her mouth shut, instead of opening it and letting everyone know how not smart she isn't. Talk about a backpedaler! Let her prove how well she prevaricates.

There are 2 that I won't deal with and a few others, too. She's one, the little soldier is another. He should be a politician, because he never answers a quesdtion, and then twists everything until it doesn't resemble the original topic. The "blog monitor" is useless, except to run up the number of posts.

WS should think twice before engaging any of them. Silence is the best treatment.

And I'm off to read there, as I'm caught up with work for the time being. Tomorrow may not be the same.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Rox, from memory, his dad once posted that the original reason our least favorite USMC member entered the service was so he could enter law enforcement upon expiration of his term of enlistment. Then, on separation from service, he decided to become an engineer. Although never stated, I've wondered if the psych exams one must endure DQ'd him from LE?

Also interesting have been his posts on his experience with the "follow up" telephone calls, etc after his return from Iraq. Now, I'm no expert, but the number of evals, etc., he claims to have been offered/taken suggest that there is a suspected issue or two there. The fact that his desire to return to Iraq hasn't been honored by the USMC (I believe he's been "home" long enough to satisfy the restrictions) raises another issue, especially in light of the shortages in USMC manpower in Iraq which have been reported. I know he has attributed the same to specific manpower needs, which may well be true; but I still wonder....
 
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KOI!
 
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Linda, you take the rest of the day as HAPPY.
I'll take my turn as GRUMPY!

(I am at work ya' know)
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Vaughn, each time the little soldier boy posts about the calls and evaluations I think the same thing -- suspected issues!

Not to mention how he must grate on the nerves of soldiers who must serve near him. They don't need any more friendly fire incidents.

I'm HAPPY! LaDeDa! I feel happy, so happy and ...


I feel pretty

Oh so pretty

I feel pretty and witty and gay

And I pity

Any girl who isn't me today

I feel charming

Oh so charming

It's alarming how charming I feel

And so pretty

That I hardly can believe I'm real



I performed this song in a production of West Side Story when I was a girl.

I like being Happy!
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Boy, did I stir up a hornet's nest OVER THERE.

Linda, this has been my grand vision for some 30 years or more, and was prompted by some reading I did in the USAF. BTW, thanks for your support. You've identified some of my issues/goals in your posts.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
We have shared a vision over those many years. I'm not surprised. Imagine expecting people to share in the responsibility of what is theirs?
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
You know, I've been reflecting a bit, and it seems to me that the idea of the Peace Corps, e.g., was the result of Pres. Eisenhower's thoughts. JFK saw it as a good idea, and ran with it.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
A week or so ago some of you (here on this wonderful blog where reasonable people talk) were discussing things that were probably causing Eisenhower to turn over in his grave, etc. You didn't post enough for me to understand so I had to use "the" google and do some studying. Usually I don't admit even to you guys my friends how poorly educated I am, but this time I want to share that I did spend lots of great hours learning about this man, Eisenhower. I read FOR THE FIRST TIME his speech titled, "Military-Industrial Complex Speech," given in 1961 right before he left office. I learned that a man I thought of as a warrior was a diplomat.

So now that I've made my confession I will say thank you for what I learned. And now I can agree that he would definitely be turning over in his grave.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Linda, indeed he was trained as a warrior, and became a diplomat. The latter was forced upon him, IMHO, when he became the Supreme Allied Commander - Europe. What with dealing with Montgomery, de Gaulle, et al., not to mention Churchill, he had to be a diplomat in order to get anything done.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
I'm also sure those skills, honed in the crucible of war, came in handy when he was President of Columbia University. Dealing with all those Ph.Ds might have left him yearning for mediating disputes between Monty and de Gaulle.
 
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Rox said:
 
Linda, don't knock your former political knowledge. I wasn't aware of anything political until the early 90's and only because a friend was and drew me into it. I couldn't have told you the difference between Democrats & Republicans until she pointed it out. It was then that I realized that, in most things, I would be considered a liberal. Still, I often say I have a "Puritan heart".

Hanging out in the Bush Betrayed the World chatroom (grinning) was also eye opening. I popped in there for the first time prior to the '04 elections. Other than Kerry and Bush, I had no clue who anybody else who was running or had run was. I wasn't aware of Eisenhower's M-IC speech until the last year or so when I watched a video.

Oh, yes, and when I first registered to vote when I turned 21, I registered Republican. My parents never told me they were Dems, and my boyfriend/later hubby's family was VERY Republican, so I figured why not? Did it make a difference? After a few years, I switch affiliation only so hubby and I could vote both tickets in the primary. Until 2004, I NEVER voted a straight ticket on either side. Now I do it as a protest. LOL
 
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Rox said:
 
VT & Linda,

Good topic re: mandatory service over there. Depending on how it might be done, I don't think it's a bad idea at all.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Rox, I stay registered as a Republican so I can cast protest votes in the primaries (when there is a choice). Raised in a traditional GOP home, my dad was very active in things political as I was growing up; he'd not recognize the party he loved today, especially here in Kansas, now that those I call the "true RINOS" have taken over. BTW, he thought Nixon should have been prevented from resigning, if that was possible; he was all fired up for what he regarded as the first chance to see a President removed from office after a trial in the Senate.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
It should be something that all Americans embrace willingly.

Remember over the 4th of July when Chad brought a lady home? She was a PhD candidate (her defense is later this month) from Harvard, a Canadian, a delightful lady. I asked her about Canada's National Health Care program. She started out by telling me it isn't anything controversial like here in the States. She said Canadians expect health care like we expect curb-side trash service if we live in a city, or water treatment plants... Then she went on to explain that if you are sick you receive care right now always. She said her Grandmother had waited six months for a hip replacement. I know that here in the U.S. it can take six months to see a specialist so didn't think this was bad!

The reason I'm sharing this is to use the cultural attitude she said Canadians have about health care in this discussion of mandatory service to our country. It's not a gimme, it's not something given, it's a right of each citizen of Canada. It's a cultural attitude that is different than the one held here in their neighboring country.

That is the kind of attitude I hope for in our citizens when it comes to service to our country. Not being forced, no stigma, just accepted as not only the way it is but the way it should be. The responsibility we accept for all that is given back. And I think if we all accepted that responsibility what is given back would be beyond what we have today in a country that gives a lot.

I probably didn't say this well enough for anyone to understand!
 
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Rox said:
 
I don't remember ever voting for Nixon, but I have voted for other Republicans for president...and congress, too. If I didn't know what was going on, I just voted as I was told to vote. ;) If I voted wrong, I "cancelled out his vote!", you see. I learned how to get around that. I lied.

Your dad's being all fired up for Nixon's impeachment makes me laugh. I really, really need to read All the President's Men or at least watch the movie.

See, Linda? You aren't the only one who started from behind.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Frau Linda, Ich ferstehe.
 
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Rox said:
 
Linda,

I've talked (or "chatted") with several people from Canada and never heard a bad word about their health care system there. I was told that it depended on which provence (province?) one lived in as to the degree of care, as each has it's own "plan".

What would make U.S. Universal Health Care great would be to take all of the good things from other countries, leave the bad, and make the best. Will we? Maybe someday...

Yes, I agree about the cultural differences between here and there. Considering when I graduated, with no idea what I wanted to do (as if there were a lot of options), a couple of years of some sort of service would have given me some experience that I might have been able to use later. Motherhood isn't all that acceptable. ;)
 
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Rox said:
 
longhorn, if you're hanging around, check this out if you haven't already.

http://www.kansas.com/static/video/coal-lovin-gove...

Gotta love Bucky!
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Rox, you've nailed another one of my goals in the "grand vision". Too many young'uns come out of high school with no ideas, well formed or ill formed, as to what they might want to do "when they grow up". There are many that head off to college on the vague notion that the degree will result in a job, and of these, most of my acquaintance either quit or are forcibly removed from the student body. Then those who do make it find out that a degree in Philosophy doesn't do much for them on the job market, and end up working in a liquor store, driving a cab, whatever, all the while regretting the decision.

I want to remark again on the obvious generational split over there in the responses to the discussion. It seemed clear to me that the opponents, by and large, are a generation or more younger than those who took the time to think about it and joined in the discussion in a more positive way.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Rox, meant to post this earlier. Chlorine, one of the Halogen gases, is the active ingredient in Clorox. The Halogens, by and large, are quite toxic in concentration to most organically based life forms. In fact, back in the days when it was presumed one might pick up HIV from a toilet seat used by an infected person, the advice was wipe it with chlorine bleach, as it was "fatal" to the virus.
 
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