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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Wife update; looks like we'll be fortunate to have her home before Monday. No one has said that, but that's the vibe.

She much appreciated the "real food" I brought following a delightful dinner with my brother, sister-in-law and two nieces. The nurses were also interested, I don't know if she "shared" or not as I was otherwise engaged for a few moments.

Another touching moment; the delivery of "hand made" get well cards from some ninth graders (last year's eighth graders) whose teacher had taught in the Middle School for several years before becoming a teacher in the Upper School. Again, evidence that she's been doing quite a bit "right" for several years.

As you guys can tell, I'm starting to become concerned. Now, it's time to "shut up" and try to get some work done.
 
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longhorn said:
 
VT, we're concerned too, underneath all the "dont worry" we're dishing out. Here's hoping still that it's nothing that cant be easily cured.

Maybe she just needs a few more KU basketball games to make her feel better.

It's GOT to make her feel better to have you as her hubby and all those great kids who love her. I hope your girls arent worrying too much either.

Hell, we dont even KNOW her and we like her:) Your descriptions are enough to make us FEEL like we know her. Very positive portrayals of Mrs. VT here. If I were married, I'd hope my spouse did the same.

I do think it's good news that she's barking for real food. A good appetite is NEVER a bad thing, unless yer me.

Hang in there VT. She'll be home soon, setting up command central in front of the ball games and sending out orders from there :)

And I mean that in the nicest possible way.. hehehehe!
 
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longhorn said:
 
And Julie? I hope that mountain of a man of yours had a good first night home. I hope YOU had a good first night home. Pain spikes when you first go home, but it will get better.

And tell him I said to DO THE DAMN EXERCISES.

Otherwise? I'll have to pretend to be crusaderX and come after him....

HEE HEE HEE HEEEEEEE!!!!
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Looking forward to that day, lh.

And Julie, if lh's admonitions aren't enough, I'll send my mother after MM; that'll get him to do his exercises, I promise.
I hope the first night home went well for both of you. I think it's actually harder on the "caregiver" than the patient under those circumstances.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Wendy, I appreciate your good thoughts as expressed on another thread as well.
 
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Julie said:
 
LH, I was drinking while reading - I should know better by now - and that CruX comment made me snort tea out of my nose. owwwwww!

It took longer to get him out of the rehab than to get him set up at home! There was a mess up with his walker and CPM machine. I was there for 3 hours and he'd been dealing with the mess up for about 4 hours! Finally got the walker around 4:30 only to find out it was the wrong walker!! So they're driving up to our house this afternoon to deliver the correct walker.
Got him as situated as we could last night. I'll need to do some cleaning/rearranging on his side of the room. Not a whole lot we can do - the big ol bed (a monster extended king 4 poster bed) leaves about 3 feet on either side for other furniture and walking.
It's nice having him home though. He even allowed me more than the standard 2 feet for 'my' side. :)
He was still sleeping when I left this morning.
He has his follow-up appointment with the surgeon next Tuesday and has outpatient therapy scheduled for the next several weeks.


VT,
Sounds like the missus will be up and at 'em very quickly and if my estimates are correct will ensure that a repeat of being forcibly inactive will be avoided at all costs (even going to see the doctor before it's critical!). Best wishes for her speedy recovery (and your continued positive attitude).
 
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Wendy said:
 
Vaughn,

any type of "unknown" illness is scary...
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
The wondering and worrying does leave too much time to think about all the what ifs, Vaughn. Her excellent health is a strong positive and as miserable as hospitals are she is in the right place so diagnosis can be made and curing started!

I agree completely with longhorn that we have the chance to know, care for and enjoy the Ms. because you share with us! Does she know she has cyber admirers too!?

Staying over a weekend in a hospital may be even more boring since things seem to slow down from what was already an aggravatingly slow pace.

Wish there were magic words. We're here and we really care. We also appreciate you knowing that we're waiting for your updates!
 
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longhorn said:
 
Good for you and MM Julie, and sorry about the tea. Hehehehe. I couldnt resist :)

Ya know, the same thing happened to me. It took two or three hours to get out of rehab. Why? They couldnt get my prescriptions for going home straightened out.

I did NOT have a good experience in rehab, and it set me back forever. The reasons I harp about the exercises is that my knees "scarred down" as they say, and I only have about 90 degree bend, so I cant climb stairs like a normal person, or run, or do a buncha other things.

They offered to go back in later and rotorooter the scar tissue out. But by that time... I was PAIN FREE, and didnt want to do anymore surgery. I was glad to trade the range of motion to be pain free.

But if they had been more diligent in rehab, the scarring would not have happened. And after that, it made it almost impossible to do the exercises.

So... make him. No matter how he whines, because it truely is terrible pain. But it will go away, and it will be worth it.

 
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lindainks55 said:
 
I think MM has been duly warned about doing those exercises. He probably knows having both longhorn and Mother Tolle on his case would be more difficult than just doing those painful exercises!

Hope every day brings relief and soon it will all be worth it!
 
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longhorn said:
 
...and thank god for DRUGS!

hehehehe!
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Wendy, it is the "unknown" that's starting to get to me, I think.

Julie, I think today will be the day MM most resembles "Grumpy". Best to him on his rehab, which, of course, will be the critical part of this whole thing, and may well dampen his enthusiasm for having the other knee "done".

Linda, my wife is aware I've posted about her, and accepts it grudgingly. She'd be happier if I passed myself off as a single person on the blogs, but such is life. I've told her that after almost 35 years (37 plus from when we began dating), it's hard to not mention her. MPS from WEBlog knows her personally, and he's also brought her up from time to time. On top of all this, I strongly feel that I "married up" when she agreed to forming that contractual relationship we call marriage.

lh, I only wish that we, as a society, could figure out that the Fourteenth Amendment really means what it says, and the impediments put in your way (and that of all others similarly situated) be removed. It wouldn't bother either my wife or me if the legal relationship "marriage" was renamed to "Consensual domestic contractual relationship" (a little "native language there :-)), with the term "marriage" reassigned to its original sacramental meaning within the Judeo-Christian religious tradition. It's always been of interest to me that the pair bonding among humans, the one between male and female made so necessary by the long gestational period for offspring to be produced to ensure survival of the species and which is not unique within the animal kingdom, and which is also a necessary part of the formation of human society, has become so contentious an issue. From a societal perspective, there is nothing IMHO which should impede the same pair bonding between those of the same gender. Knowing more than a few G&L couples who also are adoptive parents, and who are doing/have done a great job of raising the child(ren) of their choice, such bonding also promotes the survival of the species, no?

Enough procrastination; back to work.




 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
And Julie, I can assure MM through you that there isn't much worse than having my mother all over his butt. :-)
 
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Julie said:
 
I know how to get MM to do therapy! I'll cry! He hates it when I cry so if I 'breakdown' in front of him he'll get his butt in gear.
ummm....maybe I shouldn't be typing this - he'll know my secret weapon. But I only break it out when absolutely necessary (it truly is a last resort and rarely used) and he doesn't know of this blog yet so I may be safe. :)
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Hubby Wayne reads here daily so he knows all of you. This is just so everyone is aware of how UNprivate our conversations may be. I'll vouch for him as being a friendly type even if the outside gruffness has to be chipped away to get to the absolute teddy bear inside. Aren't friends those people who feel safe enough with one another to share thoughts, feelings, fears, triumphs as we do here? Wayne probably feels I do enough sharing for the both of us! And there is the fact that he is a much more quiet person than I am. To that he would ask, "Who isn't?"
 
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Danny said:
 
I apologize in advance for keeping this short. My hoping for nothing hitting the fan as usual has made somethings hit said proverbial fan. ;)

Vaughn,

I'll keep you wife in my thoughts and prayers so that she both comes home and that the doctors find out the cause. My mom recently had uterine cancer(had to do surgery due to its stage/advancement). So being in the hospital sucks, at least from her perspective it did, and from the sounds of it nearly everybody else has agreed.

Julie,

Tell MM that doing the exercises in the long run will help. If he needs motivation, I could provide motivation, but umm... I've been failing miserably and providing the proper motivation for my eldest(though young) daughter to clean her room.

LH,

While I consider G&L activity immoral(religious beliefs that I hold), I do support a civil contract("marriage" if you will) of anybody regardless of sex so that all have the same protections under the law(adoption, taxes, insurance, etc). I hold this view as I don't see harm being done to another person or groups of people. This is probably the most vocal you'll see me about it though.

 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Danny, thank you very much. I appreciate your thoughts and prayers. Hope all has gone well for your mother after her recent surgery.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Hi, Wayne; glad to know you're around. You've (as I) obviously "married up".

Contradiction is running rampant today; one doc says I might be able to bail my wife out this afternoon; another says she will need to stay until Monday. Jeez, I need to see a judge.....
 
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longhorn said:
 
Danny, all, thank you for supporting my civil rights. Truely, I dont care how ANYONE finds spiritual comfort, as long as they dont use it as an excuse to put discrimination into the constitution of any state or the nation.

And I sure meant what I said over there about the transgendered. Talk about the bloody chicken.

But I sure am proud of the gay and lesbian community for saying "no, if one of sits in the back of the bus, the rest of us will stay there too until NO ONE is FORCED to sit there."

I am continually dismayed at how racial and ethnic minorities dont see the parallel with us. Hate and discrimination are hate and discrimination. But I guess they've come so far they think they DESERVE the right to look down on another minority.

And Barney Frank, selling out the transgendered, is no better than obama as far as I am concerned. I guess he thinks now queers have come so far we can afford to leave behind the transgendered?

Jesus WEPT!
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Maybe you could suggest to the doctors that IF the Mrs. will only receive bed rest and observation in lieu of tests, actual medical intervention that she would rest better at home and if they need her next week she could return? Nah, that might subject her to the strains of dismissal and being readmitted -- not tasks without problems.
 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Good news, I think; wife just called, she's made bond, and will be released in about 1 hr. From what I understand, going to be some outpatient follow up.
 
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Okay, one more time....
loving tolerance shall be our code!
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
You sound a wee bit scared Vaughn. You've been taking care of each other lo these many years, you can do it probably better than the overworked nursing staff! How far away is medical help if necessary? Not too far!

 
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Vaughn Tolle said:
 
Linda, the "I think" was directed at the proposed outpatient follow ups. Not scared; just would prefer a clear indication that either all is OK, or they've got it figured out.
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
can we make loving tolerance our way of life too?
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Outpatient can be a lot of appointments, a lot of waiting, a lot of bother. And getting it figured out needs to happen sooner rather than later. I can see why you say, "I think."

One of the reasons I put off seeing doctors is the number of times the complaint was followed with seeing specialists who conducted tests and... One time I decided it was a conspiracy guaranteed to involve no fewer than three medical providers. Some kind of agreement to spread the wealth so to speak. All this to know what it wasn't and never what it was.
 
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Rox said:
 
Hooray on the going home news for Mrs. VT! Fingers are crossed they've discovered the culprit and the "fix" will be easy and quick.
 
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longhorn said:
 
Good News VT! Feed her lots of steak and spinach for the blood.

I wonder if bloody mary's work too?
 
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Wendy said:
 
Vaughn,

glad to hear she has made it home.

LH,

The fiance and I had a big debate about this matter last week. Initially, he did not see the "point" of allowing same-sex marriage (his words). Well, that lit a fire, let me tell you! By the time the debate was done, however, I am happy to report that he was seeing things a little more clearly! Here is my thinking - same-sex marriage should be legalized, for all the purposes listed above (security, benefits, etc...) and I think much the same way as Vaughn - the state should legalize it. If a church does not want to perform the ceremony, ergo, they don't have to. They already deny marriages for other reasons in many churches, if this goes against their beliefs, so be it. But I still think a couple should be able to go down to the courthouse and have a legal ceremony giving the same rights as a "married" couple has now, whatever label you want to put on it. To declare that same-sex marriage is flying in the face of "marriage" is laughable to me. The term marriage, and the CONCEPT of marriage are derived out of RELIGION - and wait, isn't this country's government supposed to be FREE of religion? RIGHT......... Okay, I will jump down off the soap box now :)

Just an FYI to you all, our home computer has been hacked through our firewall, apparently. And, as we do not store ANY type of financial information on our computer (for the before mentioned reason), whomever hacked said computer is apparently pissed off and decided to download numerous EXTREMELY NASTY viruses. Last virus scan indicated 54. Of course, we have no way of knowing how accurate that is, because they apparently attached a virus to the virus scan itself, which, while allowing me to scan and find said viruses, prevents me from being able to perform any "fixes" on said viruses. It's a wonderful musical chairs game! They have disabled both my task manager and my control panel so I cannot access anything, we had to disconnect the modem because they were hooked up non-stop and playing with things, and well, needless to say, the computer is likely toast. A computer genius friend of mine took a look at it, and his suggestion as far as fixing was "Get a new one". So my visits may be sporadic for a while as we try to find a computer that we can AFFORD- the good news being that all we really need is the CPU - we just upgraded most of the other stuff, so don't really need anything there. The other good news being, this is the time of year for SALES! So maybe we can find a good deal. Both of us being rather functionally computer illiterate, if anyone has suggestions on brands, things to look for, etc - all advice is appreciated. We basically want something that let's us get on the internet, play with and do minor editing to photos and music, and possibly even something that might allow us to "record" some of our own stuff, and create the background noise? That may be a little bit out of our league, however...
 
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Rox said:
 
Wendy,

I had the same sort of debate with my mother a couple of years ago. Funny, but she had gay friends when I was a little girl and had no clue what that meant. I blame too much preaching in her church about the issue, but I did bring her into the light, so to speak.

HUGS on the computer woes. Six years ago, a "friend" of my daughter's hacked our computer. The key to knowing was when she told me he made the CD drive drawer move in and out. I have no clue how that's done, and as we were using expired AV software... Another friend came to the house, wiped the drive and restored all the programs, inlcuding the brand new AV software I bought immediately. Lesson learned.

CPUs are fairly reasonable now. I bought one in June for $300. Not what I would have bought if I had been planning for a new one, but it works. I'm betting there'll be some sales, if you're looking to buy "brands". With the holidays coming up and the beginning of the year and new models, it's probably the best time to be buying.
 
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Rox said:
 
VT, I hope the wife's homecoming was an easy transition for you both.

Speaking of disasters... As some of you know, my 3-year-old grandson set his house on fire last Sunday morning. Thanks to some quick thinking by his almost 5-year-old sister, who somehow knew to close the door to his bedroom as they left the house, the fire damage was contained in that one room. Smoke and water damage are abundant in the rest of the house, and it'll be at least 3 months before all is restored and livable again. Everyone got out of the house safely, even the dogs and cats. They stayed one night with the other in-laws, then the insurance company moved them to the Wesley Motor Inn for a couple more, before setting them up at Tallgrass Inn for three more. They moved into temporary housing in Tallgrass yesterday for the duration. Nice digs!

But as I told my granddaughter when she won a 5 CD home stereo system at school for top sales in a money raising project, bad things happen, but so do good things. :)

Yesterday, one of their dogs broke through the mother-in-law's fence where the dogs were staying and disappeared. This morning the dog broke back INTO the yard and awakened the m-i-l by scratching at her bedroom window at 7 a.m.

All of this on the heels of the birth of the new grandson and the partial collapse of my son-in-law's lung earlier this month.

Insanity, anyone?
 
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lindainks55 said:
 
Oh Rox, what a lousy bunch of stuff! I'm glad everyone is safe but that will take some time to get over! Is there anything I can do?
 
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Rox said:
 
Thanks, Linda. Just pray we see more good than bad for a while, All the bad can be overcome, but it tends to be emotionally draining eventually. As a mom, you kmow that what happens to one affects all. But the good thing about that is all pulling together.

Ah, well, such is life. :)
 
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